What to expect when you can't expect Windows 11 on your PC

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PHolder

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Here's my 4th gen Intel PC, which will never be able to Run Windows 11 being used by Microsoft as a Windows 11 advertising platform:

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And if you dare click the X to try and acknowledge that you don't give a fart about Windows 11, you can't actually get any respite:

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Lob

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I used this to put it on a 2nd gen X1 Carbon because the CPU was not what MS wanted. It works, is quick.
My Surface Pro 7 daily driver is Win11 now, done because it browses, uses Office and Citrix Receiver....low risk.
 

Dave New

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I figure I have four years to wait, before deciding if I really need to change out hardware, to upgrade to Windows 11. In the meantime, I'm perfectly happy running Windows 10.
 

PHolder

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You can do this, in some sense, if you know how to work Group Policies (gpedit.msc, which is available in Pro and can be added to Home.) Here's a pic after I already had it enabled. (You should probably also run an elevated CMD and enter gpupdate to make sure it applies.) Note this will lock you on 21H1, even when 21H2 comes out... so you need to be aware to update this setting eventually.

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DanR

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Sep 17, 2020
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Agreed. Everything I've heard and seen is that it will be offered via Windows Update but it will be entirely voluntary. Not even a whisper of any nag screens at this time.
Yup. That has been my take also. It appears that Win 11 will not install on systems that cannot support it. This is in major contrast to the early days of Win 10 when Win 10 would indiscriminately attempt to force itself onto any and every system it could.

By contrast: I bought a shiny new blazing fast Optiplex 9020 (a refurb on Amazon) in late May 2021 for my late but informed transition from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro. This system will not support Win 11 due to its I5 CPU (3.6 GHz). That's OK with me! :) :) :) I am quite OK with Win 10, which will be supported thru mid 2025.

I cannot help but wonder if MS has "engineered Win 11 to fail" by requiring new hardware which is often expensive / hard to get due to current pandemic supply chain issues? :unsure:

Oh, well . . .
 

Ralph

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A couple days ago doing updates I got the 'Great news' that my laptop can run Windows 11. I don't know about that given MS's track record.
 

Bplayer

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I cannot help but wonder if MS has "engineered Win 11 to fail" by requiring new hardware which is often expensive / hard to get due to current pandemic supply chain issues? :unsure:

Oh, well . . .
This video interview may help to explain the security prevention that Win 11 is trying implement. Could this be done in Win 10, maybe, but I think there is more to it that is not being revealed. Anyone happy with Win 10 should stick with it until they can get new hardware.
 

DanR

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That would make no sense (especially since they are support Win10 and Win11 side by side for four years).
Its happened before. Vista and 8 are considered failed Windows releases. XP, 7, and now 10 (after a slow, onerous start) are considered successes. If the pattern holds . . .

I perhaps should have said : I cannot help but wonder if MS has unwittingly "engineered Win 11 to fail" by requiring new hardware which is often expensive / hard to get due to current pandemic supply chain issues?

Win 11 could become a victim of unfortunate timing by MS.
 

Lob

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Nov 7, 2020
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I have Win11 now on a Samsung Slate that was a takeaway from MS Build 2011, coming with Win8 on it. It's pretty neat, the machine lives on. Done using the BC method I linked to above..... let's see if it gets a Patch Tuesday hitting it :)
 

Ed Roberts

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I have an Acer Nitro 5 AN515-51-5082 (Intel Core i5 (7th Gen) 7300HQ / 2.5 GHz. The MS website for CPU's supported says It's supported.
The W11.msi file for checking if your system is supported says NO because of the CPU.
go figure.....
 

colin.p

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I bought an i5 4th gen HP desktop off Newegg last March as I wanted to add a windows computer to my motely crew of assorted linux machines. It came with win10 and apparently will not "upgrade" to 11. I find win 10 to be as workable as the last windows I used (XP) and am happy as a clam to keep it on 10 until the bell tolls in October '24.

I just quiver with anticipation at all the "junk, useless, old and obsolete" computers that will be dirt cheap, that will run linux securely without all this TPM, Secure boot nonsense. I can't wait...
 

Darcon

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Oct 8, 2020
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Please Mr. Tiberius, we need you. Please give us a Never11 to stop this madness...

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Disable your TPM in BIOS, Windows 11 won't install or prompt you to install like above. Seems like Microsoft gave us a perfect Never 11 already.

I can ignore the warning that my system is not compatible in a window I see once a month. All the other nagging will go away as well.

Unless you are using TPM for BitLocker, there really seems to be no need to enable TPM.