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  • SpinRite v6.1 Release #3
    Guest:
    The 3rd release of SpinRite v6.1 is published and may be obtained by all SpinRite v6.0 owners at the SpinRite v6.1 Pre-Release page. (SpinRite will shortly be officially updated to v6.1 so this page will be renamed.) The primary new feature, and the reason for this release, was the discovery of memory problems in some systems that were affecting SpinRite's operation. So SpinRite now incorporates a built-in test of the system's memory. For the full story, please see this page in the "Pre-Release Announcements & Feedback" forum.
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Welcome to GRC's Off-Topic Lounge

#1

Steve

Steve

Hey Everyone!

It seemed like a good idea to provide some place for conversation that doesn't fit neatly into any of the pre-defined "on-topic" forums. So, this is that place.


#2

Dave

Dave

@Steve, Nice job on the MaxSpeed propaganda sheet. One thing...

see the links in the block at the upper-left
That only applies to desktops. On a mobile platform, there is no such thing.


#3

Steve

Steve

That only applies to desktops. On a mobile platform, there is no such thing.
Oh! Thanks Dave!


#4

D

DanR

Hey Steve,

Made it here. Very easy using SQRL authentication and the simple registration process.

As a long time member of GRC NG's, first as a reader only, and then as an occasional poster, I have learned much, including the knowledge there is always much more to learn. And I have managed to contribute something worthwhile on occasion, along with an occasional dumb post.

I would be interested in being a moderator, although I'm not sure how qualified I may be, as a means of continuing to contribute.

Dan (DanR)


#5



GuyCC

@Steve I second @DanR 's comment about the ease of SQRL! That has GOT to catch on!


#6

jmcafee

jmcafee

It would be interesting to see stats on the number of users that use SQRL for login vs. conventional login/pw.


#7

B

buzz

I used sqrl of course :)


#8

A

alexT

@Steve I second @DanR 's comment about the ease of SQRL! That has GOT to catch on!
+1

But we need a "real" iOS client...


#9

L

Lee

Logged in by creating an account the 'old school' way, then tried the forgot password option which works fine too (y)


#10

Qapla

Qapla

Just created an account using SQRL, that was really easy! I'll probably remain active in the newsgroups, but wanted to have the possibility to also post here.


#11

R

RayG

@Steve, So I managed to create and SQRL account here but when I go back to the SQRL forum (SQRL Forum)I can no longer login using the same SQRL ID. See my post in the newsgroup : SQRL Login on SQRL Forum failing - Protocol Error


#12

C

Chauncy

Yay!! SQRL login working.


#13

P

PHolder

Protocol Error
Interesting @RayG. I am using my same SQRL identity with both without issue. It appears you found some sort of a bug that @Steve will need to dig into the logs maybe.


#14

B

BruceP

Logged in the old fashioned way as well. Audio captcha was no fun as usual, except to confuse the Google voice recognition.


#15

D

dc81

(y) to SQRL login


#16

C

Chauncy

@Steve, So I managed to create and SQRL account here but when I go back to the SQRL forum (SQRL Forum)I can no longer login using the same SQRL ID. See my post in the newsgroup : SQRL Login on SQRL Forum failing - Protocol Error

In my case, the SQRL forum is asking me to register. It is as if I was never there. Maybe Steve is working out some bugs.


#17

Steve

Steve

But we need a "real" iOS client...
Yeah. Jeff's client leaves a lot to be desired.

And thanks for all the kind words about SQRL, everyone. I'm proud of what we were able to achieve with that. It really does (and would) revolutionize authentication.


#18

Steve

Steve

Hmmmmm... I don't know what's up with SQRL over in the SQRL forums. It's still working for me, and Paul Holder indicates that it's working from him. I'm a bit overwhelmed by the setup of these forums, but I'll see what I can determine. Thanks for the reports!


#19

R

RayG

Hmmmmm... I don't know what's up with SQRL over in the SQRL forums. It's still working for me, and Paul Holder indicates that it's working from him. I'm a bit overwhelmed by the setup of these forums, but I'll see what I can determine. Thanks for the reports!
@Steve,

I had a thought - I know always dangerous...

But it did provide the answer to my SQRL login issue on the SQRL Forum.

I have the GRC SQRL client and the SQRL Chromium V0.0.55 installed on my system. If I use the installed GRC Client, it has a different password to that stored in the MS Edge Chromium Client. and that is what is causing the issue and protocol error. So, I don't know if there is a better error message that can be used as "Protocol Error" does not really impart the real reason for the login failing.


#20

S

surya

Steve Congrats for the forums. God speed to you. Right now for the next 45 days I am kinda locked up in my day work project not having much time to contribute to Spinrite Beta program although I am reading every one of the posts in the Newsgroups. I am just helpless on that. However if I have even the slightest time - (I am working now 14 hrs a day)- I will be back to work for you.
--
Regards,
Surya@Vizag@India


#21

Steve

Steve

I appreciate your note, @surya. And God speed to you, too!


#22

M

mike_n5pwp

It seemed obvious that sqrl was the way to register here. :cool:
I've been a lurker in the newsgroups (esp. spinrite.dev) but following along on my system (Gateway PC with 1TB Samsung SSD and a 2TB WD spinner). Everything is working so far. It has been enlightening and informative to see it all get worked out. I will stay lurking in the newsgroups and wait to see what develops over here.


#23

Bruce

Bruce

I had zero issues setting up my account, quite painless.


#24

G

Graham

Also SQRL Login, easy to register and login. (y)


#25

W

Wolfen

No worries here old school login and captcha, I did try before the forums were announced in the groups but looked like things were still being set up at that time


#26

Phillip Porch

Phillip Porch

Logging in and creating an account was fast and easy.


#27

Tom Bell

Tom Bell

Greetings Steve! I had no problems with the registration other than the confirmation email falling into the junk section of my inbox (Had to mark as 'Not Junk') :) -- Tom.


#28

C

Chauncy

In my case, the SQRL forum is asking me to register. It is as if I was never there. Maybe Steve is working out some bugs.

OK! The problem was me. I have one laptop that I use for various testing which happens to have a test setup of SQRL that I forgot about. Well, I setup my account here using this laptop. Needless to say, I ended up using the wrong identity. :(

I was able to resolve this mistake by replacing my connected identity with the correct one. lucky for me I still had the rescue code for the test identity. All hail to SQRL and all the forethought that went into it.


#29

R

Ricardo

SQRL worked for me using Android phone.


#30

M

merk

Thanks for making the new forum so that folks like me, who lurked the newsgroup, can finally post and contribute to the conversation. I never took the steps needed to become involved over there. I realize this doesn't replace it (yet), but I feel like I am more welcome! SQRL worked good for me too.


#31

T

TDillon

Yay! My first membership using SQRL. I've had SQRL installed for months but this was my first opportunity to use it. The sign up process here was awesomely simple. I do like that you confirmed my email address too.


#32

D

djjames

Heh, just like TDillon this is my first membership using SQRL. I too had it installed for months. I goofed because I couldn't remember where I'd stored my original SQRL data so I had to use my rescue code. It worked. I've created a bootable DOS thumb drive using InitDisk and I next want to get ReadSpeed and check that out. Looking forward to the SpinRite 6.1 update.


#33

Warwagon

Warwagon

For looks great so far.


#34

J

Jeff Arthur

+1

But we need a "real" iOS client...
Yeah I agree.


#35

Steve

Steve

Yeah I agree.
Nice to see you here, Jeff! I KNOW that you've been quite busy over in SQRL land! (y) I was able to use the client we have to test the SQRL logon here last week. So thanks again so much for that! (y)


#36

D

DanR

Nice to see you here, Jeff! I KNOW that you've been quite busy over in SQRL land! (y) I was able to use the client we have to test the SQRL logon here last week. So thanks again so much for that! (y)
Yes! (y) Thanks, Jeff! Your present IOS client always amazes me when I watch it work. I've also tested it here on this forum. It just plain works!


#37

T

TAC109

Effortless account setup using Jeff's iOS client!

Thanks for all the good work here!


#38

C

Choppie

Yay!! SQRL login working.
Yes! That's the first thing I tested...worked perfectly :)


#39

PHoganDive

PHoganDive

This 'welcome' thread should be stickied, so it stays at the top of the posting chart.

Edit: I just noticed there is a second thread with the same name that does appear to be stickied, so never mind...:)


#40

JeanFrancoisSimon

JeanFrancoisSimon

Good day,

I'm glad to be registered and did it with SQRL, there is some magic in all this.

This forum engine looks awesome, thank you for this.

Jean-François


#41

G

Grizbud

Hello everyone,
I'd like to ask what is the most efficient way to discover new threads which may be of interest. I've been around personal computers since the early 1980's, but hardly ever use bulletin boards (at least since Fidonet) and have always been been intimidated by IRC. I'm using Xenforo's watch function on some threads, but there doesn't seem to be (or I haven't yet found) a means to easily identify new threads. So far, I've been looking at the "latest posts" in the column on the right side of the home screen for new threads, but that might not be ideal if one is unable to login for several days especially now that Steve is discussing new forums. Is there a way to be alerted about newly created threads and then have the option to watch or ignore them?

Thank you.

Jim


#42

P

PHXdNelson

Personally I have a shortcut on my favorites toolbar and simply check the site when I have time. I find this much easier. When I arrive at the site, I see a 'new' next to each item that is new to me. This a great feature keeping me from clicking around to see what is new or not.


#43

rfrazier

rfrazier

Hello everyone,
I'd like to ask what is the most efficient way to discover new threads which may be of interest. I've been around personal computers since the early 1980's, but hardly ever use bulletin boards (at least since Fidonet) and have always been been intimidated by IRC. I'm using Xenforo's watch function on some threads, but there doesn't seem to be (or I haven't yet found) a means to easily identify new threads. So far, I've been looking at the "latest posts" in the column on the right side of the home screen for new threads, but that might not be ideal if one is unable to login for several days especially now that Steve is discussing new forums. Is there a way to be alerted about newly created threads and then have the option to watch or ignore them?

Thank you.

Jim

@Grizbud , FWIW, here's what I'm doing. YMMV.

When new I first joined, or when new forums are added I did / will:
- click on forums on the top tool bar in the brown banner
- select a forum like steve's blog or off topic lounge and open it in a new tab
- click the watch button on the right to watch the whole forum with alerts and / or emails
> The system will alert / email you when a new thread is created. It will not alert / email you
> when new posts are created unless you watch the threads.

Then, when you next login, you can:
- Click on the What's New in the brown banner. This will default to a sub heading menu of
New Posts. This will show you posts you haven't read.

While on that page, you can:
- Click on the (other) What's New link just above the lists of posts (rather than New Posts).
This will show you recent posts whether you've read them or not.

If you click back to Forums in the brown banner, you will see a 2nd row of menu items just
below the brown banner. You can:
- Click the drop down arrow next to Watched, and examine your watched threads and forums
- Click the Mark Forums Read link. This tells the system you've read everything, so next time
you come back, the "new" tags will only show what you haven't read.

Note that if you watch a thread and select email alerts, it only emails you about the first new post since your last visit. Then you have to visit the web page. You can leave a tab logged into the forum all the time if you wish.

Hope this helps. Hope it makes sense.

Ron


#44

G

Grizbud

Ron,
Thank you very much! That looks to be exactly what I'm looking for. Most appreciated.

Jim


#45

L

Lee 7676

Steve,
Good day to you and your crew! Sorry for the delay in sign up, we are looking to learn lots of new things from the smart kids here!

Have a great week and Thank You for providing these forums as a place to continue our lifelong education in computer systems and operating systems.

Continued good health and success in your ventures.

Lee 7676
Proverbs 22:6-7
Spinrite user since 1.1 on the grey 5.25" disc ;-)


#46

rfrazier

rfrazier

Ron,
Thank you very much! That looks to be exactly what I'm looking for. Most appreciated.

Jim
@Grizbud Glad to help. Ron


#47

P

PHolder

@rfrazier @Grizbud Steve is a fan of keeping the discussions focused to meaningful content. I know, at first, it may seem inhuman to not say thanks, etc, but we do encourage you to use the Xenforo "Like" feature for these simple one line messages, when possible, instead. You can hover over the Like button to see a bunch of different possible reactions, not all of them even positive.

@Steve, is it possible to add a new reaction for "Thank You"?


#48

Steve

Steve

@Steve, is it possible to add a new reaction for "Thank You"?
I'd be glad to. I added the “Done!” with green check mark to that I could reply in that fashion. But is there some icon that would make that clear?


#49

Guy

Guy

I'd be glad to. I added the “Done!” with green check mark to that I could reply in that fashion. But is there some icon that would make that clear?
is there an emoji with just "TY" available?


#50

rfrazier

rfrazier

@Steve At first I thought there would be an easy answer to your question. Then, when I started thinking about it, it wasn't so easy. I did a google search for thank you icon and then thank you gesture and clicked for images in each case. Many results have the words "thank you" in them. Of the ones that don't, noticed 3 interesting ones in a few minutes of searching. Those are:
* 2 hands shaking hands together - maybe hard to do as tiny icon
* 2 hands palms together in a praying style
* a hand with thumb and forefinger together in a circle and the other 3 fingers in the air - also used as an OK symbol
Looking through the emoticons on my phone, there's one that appears to look like 2 hands clapping, but the meaning isn't too obvious.
FWIW. Ron


#51

Dave

Dave

@Steve At first I thought there would be an easy answer to your question. Then, when I started thinking about it, it wasn't so easy. I did a google search for thank you icon and then thank you gesture and clicked for images in each case. Many results have the words "thank you" in them. Of the ones that don't, noticed 3 interesting ones in a few minutes of searching. Those are:
* 2 hands shaking hands together - maybe hard to do as tiny icon
* 2 hands palms together in a praying style
* a hand with thumb and forefinger together in a circle and the other 3 fingers in the air - also used as an OK symbol
Looking through the emoticons on my phone, there's one that appears to look like 2 hands clapping, but the meaning isn't too obvious.
FWIW. Ron
If only you could do: https://media.tenor.com/images/3a7876747a7d3899244281ded89f169e/tenor.gif



#53

Guy

Guy

.. and with Pauley Perrette to boot!
I'm in!


#54

B

BruceP

Google added to Chrome/User Data/ZscvbnData/1, a strange collection of lists of words including: passwords, female names, surnames, english wikipedia, us tv and films. Interesting to look at and be amused.