Long time listener and have heard many discussions about Vit C dosing, yet there is nothing on the website about how much or what to take? Would love to have that information. Have been taking 5000IU of Vit D for over a year. The latest blood test as part of my annual physical had me right in the middle of the acceptable range.
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Yeah, but that really only gives half the story. As Trey mentioned, it's way less thorough than the Vit D stuff posted on the website. I'm not necessarily advocating for that level, but something in the middle would be nice. At least links to some various products with various information on dosing, etc.
If a doctor was active in a forum like this and posts identified the person as a reliable asset on my problem I would certainly discuss my IT problem.
Would I contact a random doctor about my IT problem? That would be foolish.
I have been monitoring the health discussions in this group for about a decade. My second wellness colonoscopy in a decade literally reported boring, boring boring with a grin on his face. I have zero blockage in my arteries and my general practitioner said keep up the good work.
My wellness routine follows a good bit of the health advice received here. Magnesium removed the pain I was experiencing at the gym. All gain, no pain. But then, you have to know which magnesium to purchase and you can guess where I found that information. Hint, it was not at the doctor's office and I was not charged for it
Would that not be the case the other way around? I.e. taking medical advice from IT person?
@Mervyn Haynes I think you are missing the point, Steve is not a random IT person, he is more than that, he has done a lot of research that has helped him, those around him, and others on the nntp server and will likely help people here, and people who have listened to him talk about these topics on security now.
Would I listen to a random IT person about medical things? No.
But Steve has a track record of processing a lot of papers and science and condensing it and then making it understandable to others. So that is different.
A bit of a rant follows, feel free to skip
In some ways maybe random IT people with good information processing skills, will be able to do a better job than stressed out doctors that just want to quickly get the patient some prescription(s) to keep them from dying and treat symptoms, rather than cure them (so the patient keeps coming back), and get them the fuck out of their office is going to.
At least in my personal experience doctors do 99% of the time not actually help me, medicines prescribed often have worse side effects than the symptoms they were prescribed for, at least for me. And at least here they have less than a hour of time for each patient (including the break between patients and time to read the journal for the patient and write the new journal notes), maybe that is better in the US, I have not experienced the US medical system, so I would not know.
Would I listen to a random IT person about medical things? No.
But Steve has a track record of processing a lot of papers and science and condensing it and then making it understandable to others. So that is different.
A bit of a rant follows, feel free to skip
In some ways maybe random IT people with good information processing skills, will be able to do a better job than stressed out doctors that just want to quickly get the patient some prescription(s) to keep them from dying and treat symptoms, rather than cure them (so the patient keeps coming back), and get them the fuck out of their office is going to.
At least in my personal experience doctors do 99% of the time not actually help me, medicines prescribed often have worse side effects than the symptoms they were prescribed for, at least for me. And at least here they have less than a hour of time for each patient (including the break between patients and time to read the journal for the patient and write the new journal notes), maybe that is better in the US, I have not experienced the US medical system, so I would not know.
I am not missing any point. The fact is medical advise is being taken by others from someone with no medical training. I would have thought in this day and age, where people sue each other (especially in the US) for the slightest "negligence", he may be leaving himself vulnerable.
I too have very little experience of US medical system, living in the UK. The only time i came into contact with it was when I had severe head pain, and they wanted $400 before i was even looked at. Thank god for our NHS.
That might be the case if he claimed to be a medical professional or did not make clear that his findings regarding what supplements work for him are the result of personal research and experimentation.
I don't think he has anything to worry about on that front.
That's something I hadn't thought of. So, your UK medical "insurance" doesn't cover you when you leave the country?
Canadian health insurance doesn't really cover you abroad. More specifically it *might* cover you, but the coverage will be at Canadian levels, and that probably is insufficient for the expenses incurred in another country. Many employers provide specific travel health insurance if they expect you to travel. Some travel focused credit cards also provide some coverage. If you have no specific coverage, contracting a temporary coverage for the duration of your trip abroad is probably well advised.
It is not medical insurance as such. The NHS (National Health Service) was formed in 1948. It basically said that medical care was free to everyone. In the days of the EU (European Union), which we (UK) are now exiting (Brexit), that was extended to all EU countries, and they would have cover in our country. Outside of this we would purchase medical insurance, but we would have to pay up first & claim it back later!
PS I notice you are watching neXt too, when is episode 4 coming out? They have stopped!
Thanks. I went back and forth on what to call the NHS. As you can see I finally settled on "insurance" hoping you wouldn't be offended by the quotes (I moderate a language page for a popular radio show / podcast on language so I try to be careful of my usage).
So NHS doesn't cover you in other countries but would cover me if I became ill in the UK. Correct? In the U.S. even though I have government insurance (Medicare for those over 65) I also pay for a private insurance supplement which not only supplements Medicare but would cover me if I go abroad (not all supplements do but that's the benefit of being able to choose private insurance).
As far as NEXT goes, I don't think it will be back until 11/10 (I would have said 11/3 but that's election day in the US).
In the US, anyone can post/write/blog/etc. information about anything 'medical' they want, as long as they don't claim they are a doctor or try to see patients like a doctor generally speaking. That said, licensing in this country is on a state-by-state basis, as are most libel laws, etc. etc. So it can vary from state to state. The vitamin and supplement industries are also highly unregulated in this country with not approvals formally by the FDA, NIH, etc. All the best ones submit to outside auditing for the process, efficacy, etc., but it's not mandatory. And not all rating agencies are the same either.
But in general, you can write, blog, publish, etc. anything you want. There are tons of books written about all kinds of dietary and medical things by laypersons. At least for the Vit D research Steve has posted, it appears to be well researched, well documented, and backed up with links to multiple studies, etc. I've taken 5000IU a day for the last year and a recent routine physical with a blood test also checked for Vit D and B12 levels, and my Vit D level was right down the middle. Maybe it's not taken the supplement to do that, but I'd have to stop and then go back for another test, etc. For the pennies a day, seems no harm and anything I can do to stave off illnesses, etc. is welcome.
I know several medical professionals who are very competent IT people (and a few engineers in that to boot) so thank god for multi-disciplinary studies. Or we wouldn't have many of the life-saving technologies we have now that are highly technical feats of science, engineering, and IT skills.
If you don't want to take his advice, that's totally up to you. I for one, appreciate it and then I can do my own research and come to my own conclusions.
That said, this topic has now strayed a long way from just asking about Steve's Vit C findings....
But in general, you can write, blog, publish, etc. anything you want. There are tons of books written about all kinds of dietary and medical things by laypersons. At least for the Vit D research Steve has posted, it appears to be well researched, well documented, and backed up with links to multiple studies, etc. I've taken 5000IU a day for the last year and a recent routine physical with a blood test also checked for Vit D and B12 levels, and my Vit D level was right down the middle. Maybe it's not taken the supplement to do that, but I'd have to stop and then go back for another test, etc. For the pennies a day, seems no harm and anything I can do to stave off illnesses, etc. is welcome.
I know several medical professionals who are very competent IT people (and a few engineers in that to boot) so thank god for multi-disciplinary studies. Or we wouldn't have many of the life-saving technologies we have now that are highly technical feats of science, engineering, and IT skills.
If you don't want to take his advice, that's totally up to you. I for one, appreciate it and then I can do my own research and come to my own conclusions.
That said, this topic has now strayed a long way from just asking about Steve's Vit C findings....
My favorite story of pursuing multiple, complementary disciplines is that the inventor of the Jarvik 7 artificial heart was Paul Winchell who also created Jerry Mahoney and Knucklehead Smith.
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No. Free health care is only for EU citizens at the moment, but now the UK is leaving EU presume even that will not be the case!
On the contrary, I too am taking 5000 IU (Vit D) a day. I an just playing devils' advocate!
Why such a long wait? I thought these series were suppose to be weekly! Election day eh, one big bun fight!
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If you worked in the UK and paid National Insurance (taken by your employer from your salary automatically which funds the NHS) then you would be covered. As a tourist you would have to have Insurance or an agreement existing between the US and the UK to cover you.
So your having to pay for medical care in the US would be the same, currently, if I went to the UK (but maybe not after Brexit).
I have no idea. They are rerunning episode 3 on 10/27 and the next week is election day. I would expect it to come back after that. Plus, at the end of November we start running into the holiday season which may disrupt it again. Oh well, at least The Mandalorian starts next week.
If I understand you right, yes I would have to pay for care in the US, but my privately purchased insurance (not NHS) would cover it, as I could claim the cost back. Anyone outside the EU (this includes the US) have never been covered by the NHS, you would have to rely on your medical insurance to cover treatment.
This I presume is true, but as an American tourist you would need a work visa. As a tourist to the UK would not be covered.
Are you thinking of a trip to the UK then?
