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In Security Now 976 you stated you didn't know why Firefox didn't have vertical tabs like other browsers? But they do, I've been using "List All Tabs" in Firefox for several years and don't grasp the frustration. List All Tabs is fast, simple and out-ot-the way. I'd like your thoughts on this FF feature and why you don't use it? THX!
 
I use Tree Style Tab which was recommended by Steve many years ago, but it takes a bit of work to setup. It is used along with Tab Session Manager which can eliminates the need for bookmarks. Currently I have over 120 tabs and daily have around 20 active.

The description says "List tabs, find duplicates, and close them" which does not sound like a vertical tab solution.

Incidentally:
List All Tabs - 37 users
Tab Session Manage - 209,830 users
 
People should at least listen to the podcast and what was discussed before they sound off.
Also, reading a description and using a feature are two completely different actions, 'List All Tabs' is a tab solution and allows the user to instantly go to any open tab. 'List All Tab' I found to be much cleaner (out of the way) than Tree Style Tab, which I have also used...
 
People should at least listen to the podcast and what was discussed before they sound off.
Sir, we welcome all participants here if they have something on topic to contribute. Please check your attitude at the door as it will lead to a more productive discussion and friendlier interactions.
 
All Tabs Helper may be useful to some as well, although it too does not constitute built in vertical tabs. (Which is what @Steve claims he wants.) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/all-tabs-helper/ It can sit on your toolbar, you click it, it drops down a list and has a search capability.
Without attitude; the discussion in episode 976 was Leo and @Steve didn't understand why FF didn't offer vertical tabs like every other browser, and I'd argue they do have such a feature without the need of addons like Tree View Tabs or All Tabs Helper etc.. It's right there in 'List All Tabs' and has been for years, but I guess no one either knows about it and/or uses it but me. :unsure::unsure::unsure:
 
List All Tabs
Well to be honest, I forget that feature even exists, because it's in the wrong place (I would want it on the left side) and doesn't appear to be movable.

I think the appeal of an always visible list of tabs is that you can use muscle memory to click around when you're working frequently between tabs.

Way back when there used to be a IE clone with side tabs that John C Dvorak used to promote. It wasn't free, and I actually purchased it and liked it. It's been long gone for a long time and now I can't even remember the name of it. What I remember most from using it was that it was great for when you wanted to do "research" and have an easy overview of what you have "found."
[An hour of time later...]
So I went looking at my ancient LiveJournal Blog (now controlled by Russians unfortunately) from 2003... to find it was called iRider. I found someone else's old blog with a pic https://www.tommcmahon.net/2005/03/the_irider_brow_3.html
 
In Security Now 976 you stated you didn't know why Firefox didn't have vertical tabs like other browsers? But they do, I've been using "List All Tabs" in Firefox for several years and don't grasp the frustration. List All Tabs is fast, simple and out-ot-the way. I'd like your thoughts on this FF feature and why you don't use it? THX!
In my opinion, Firefox's “List All Tabs” feature, more than anything else, demonstrates the fact that Firefox lacks true native vertical tabs. What having vertical tabs means is having them sitting there, along the left edge of the screen, always visible and instantly browsable at a glance. If a user has a large number of traditional horizontal tabs, the "List All Tabs" is needed to allow them to find the tab they want. It's mostly a sad half-measure. So let's hope (I'll hope!) that Firefox might finally wake up to this clear need. And as Chris mentioned, above, Tab Session Manager is another super-handy add-on. (y)
 
In my opinion, Firefox's “List All Tabs” feature, more than anything else, demonstrates the fact that Firefox lacks true native vertical tabs. What having vertical tabs means is having them sitting there, along the left edge of the screen, always visible and instantly browsable at a glance. If a user has a large number of traditional horizontal tabs, the "List All Tabs" is needed to allow them to find the tab they want. It's mostly a sad half-measure. So let's hope (I'll hope!) that Firefox might finally wake up to this clear need. And as Chris mentioned, above, Tab Session Manager is another super-handy add-on. (y)
Without triggering my conspiracy hypothesist, I find it curiously comical so many (including myself) still feel a need for such "native" spatial constraints as a routine of rigid tabs, and continue with an insistence on a conformity and limit of yesteryear's perusing of information and media.
 
Without triggering my conspiracy hypothesist, I find it curiously comical so many (including myself) still feel a need for such "native" spatial constraints as a routine of rigid tabs, and continue with an insistence on a conformity and limit of yesteryear's perusing of information and media.
When will complaining/suggesting that we need vertical tabs on all our other applications besides the browser? Just maybe FF's 'List All Tabs' is brilliantly ahead of its time with a pull down tab list?
 
No one should ever need more than one tab. That's what multiple browser windows are for. ;)
 
"The twisted psychology of browser tabs—and why we can’t get rid of them"
https://www.fastcompany.com/9063577...-browser-tabs-and-why-we-cant-get-rid-of-them
@Steve you interestingly touched on a browser zero tab potential in episode #SN977 discussing uses for Microsoft's Recall data which was kind of instinctively hinted at in the later part of the article above. Tomorrows user interface(s) of technology and information access all resides outside the box of today's container of routines. Our potential use of LLM AI is completely unimagined as of yet, but by the likes of those at Microsoft which have lead an intentional clear vision of past, present and future computing direction. The problem with today's binary realm is the flaw in our terrestrial infrastructure (insecure) and compromised Giant Tech across the board, which is currently being replaced with a secure quantum celestial infrastructure (i.e., https://www.starlink.com/ ) protected globally by the USSF.
 
The BETA channel of Firefox has vertical tabs now!
You might want to reread the release notes.
"It is now possible to close all duplicate tabs in a window with the Close duplicate tabs command available from the List all tabs widget in the tab bar or a tab context menu." or did I miss something?
 
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did I miss something?
Apparently you did... whether they have it properly documented or not is unclear.

also
 
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Apparently you did... whether they have it properly documented or not is unclear.

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I'm sure your Firefox Nightly feedback will help speed things along...
 
Without attitude; the discussion in episode 976 was Leo and @Steve didn't understand why FF didn't offer vertical tabs like every other browser, and I'd argue they do have such a feature without the need of addons like Tree View Tabs or All Tabs Helper etc.. It's right there in 'List All Tabs' and has been for years, but I guess no one either knows about it and/or uses it but me. :unsure::unsure::unsure:
Anyone else reading this thread using 'List all tabs'? Everyone I've talked to using FF over the years didn't even know it existed. D'oh!