SN1041 Ukraine, The Ukraine

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dusanmal

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As a Slavic person here is my best guess how "The Ukraine" controversy started. First, as most now know Ukraine has meaning in most Slavic languages, meaning Borderland. It is in use in other countries too, in my country of origin there were several "Ukraines", aligning with our borders in time. Hence, strictly speaking concept of "an Ukraine" in English indeed exists. However, second part of the problem is that Slavic languages have no concept of English "a" and "the". I now live for 40yrs in USA and it is still hard work for me dealing with "a" and "the", brain language model formed without those concepts... Hence, my best guess about "The Ukraine" concept emergence is from the non-native English speaking Slavic people naturally not understanding that "The" is not needed in this case.
 
This is an interesting subject, full of weirdness and inconsistency. In my native Spanish, we use the Spanish forms for "the" in front of the names of some countries but not others, for example "el Líbano" for Lebanon and "la Argentina" for Argentina, but then "Francia" and "Australia." And French puts articles before more country names than Spanish does.

In English, though, it's rare to do this except for names denoting some group of associated governments, such as "the United States," "the United Kingdom" and "the USSR." Ukraine was about the only non-group state that got "the" before its name.

Early on in this century, even as we talked about "the Ukraine," in English we would speak of "Internet" rather than "the Internet," for example "I saw it on Internet today." Then a newspaper, taking notice of the start of emerging trends, jokingly suggested that we should take the "the" from Ukraine and give it to the Internet. ;) And here we are.