PHP Leads the way, at least according to one survey

[seb]

Currently the most in demand (and most dreaded) language

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[rfrazier]

That's interesting. I haven't tried it myself. I've been thinking of learning Free Pascal / Lazarus or Golang just for fun. I like the idea of a compiled and blazing fast language. PS, Steve created a Coding forum that posts like this could go in.

Ron

 

[Robert Hickman]

PHP isnt as bad as its often made out to be. A lot of the bad reputation comes from early projects created by people who didn't really know programming.

It has some oddities, you can learn to avoid them.

 

[EdwinG]

While I personally moved on from PHP to PowerShell for my simple projects and Python/Java for the more complicated ones, it is still a very capable language. And the improvements they did in PHP5 and PHP7 have brought it to par with the likes of Python and Java (can't speak for other languages).

 

[PHolder]

learning Free Pascal / Lazarus

I have used Lazarus, and I can say that it's great if you like[d] Delphi, or Visual Basic (same idea for code construction, different language, Object Pascal versus [Object] BASIC.)

 

[rfrazier]

I have used Lazarus, and I can say that it's great if you like[d] Delphi, or Visual Basic (same idea for code construction, different language, Object Pascal versus [Object] BASIC.)

Sounds cool. I used to program professionally in Clipper database language 30 years ago on DOS systems.

Clipper (programming language) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I like compiled languages. I'm way past doing anything commercially. I've just been threatening to learn another for fun. But, since it takes years to master almost anything, it's hard to put the time in. I can't believe I'm thinking about (re)learning a language I learned in college 35 years ago, IE Pascal.

I like the idea of the GUI with Lazarus. I like the idea of the memory manager with Golang. But, alas, no good GUI. I understand programs have more deterministic timing without the memory manager, if that is important.

We'll see if I ever get around to it.

Ron

 

[PHolder]

Clipper database

I remember Clipper. I studied DBase (I wanna say 4.5 but am unsure) in a university course, and I used to do some DBase development for a BBS system I was involved with. (TDBS was an expensive add-on for TBBS.) I made games for the site in it, among other things. I had a pirate copy of Clipper that my friend shared with me, but I never found a cause to do more with it than play. (I was not being paid as a developer at that point, still being in university.) My friend made quite a career of DBase and Clipper... and then eventually moved on to SQL database work for embedded systems.

 

[maxrodrigo]

It's hard to precise.
I understand there's still a ton of legacy PHP out there. But with the advent of cloud infrastructures, "agnostic serverless modularization", larger teams, etc. I would've imagined a different trend.
I guess it's heavily dependent on the specific sector too.

Here are some interesting additional data:

Stack Overflow Developer Survey 2020

Nearly 65,000 took this comprehensive, annual survey of people who code. Demographics. Most loved, dreaded and wanted technologies. Salary and careers.

insights.stackoverflow.com

 

[Mainframe]

Sorry, but REXX forever!

 

[PHolder]

REXX

I LOVED the idea behind AREXX on the Amiga. The goal of making all your apps scriptable was a great goal. Miss the Amiga!

 

[MichaelRSorg]

REXX, eh? Here's to you old man. From another old man. I even remember that mainframes had an OS called DOS before PCs did

 

[danlock]

I was looking at various forum software on Wikipedia and noticed that most (including XenForo) use PHP. Was the "Personal HomePage" reference made by Leo in the 2020-11-03 Security Now a valid one?

 

[EdwinG]

Personal Home Page was the original name for PHP. Now, it's known as "PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor".

Sources:

• https://www.php.net/manual/en/preface.php
• https://www.php.net/manual/en/history.php.php