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MacNala

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I started using SQRL way back. Since then I have had two PCs which needed a rebuild from the ground up. Re-installing SQRL works fine but when it comes to the GRC Public Forums and the SQRL forum I now have 3 or four different identifiers Macnala, Macnala2, Macnala3.
I suppose Steve has the ability to merge them or regularise them, but just so I an appear as, other than, new member.
 

PHolder

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If you're creating new accounts, then you're probably not successfully importing your SQRL identifier. If you use the GRC client, it pretty much forces you to make a backup as you set it up. You need to have the original ID *and* the recovery code to successfully import it into another device.
 

MacNala

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I now have a secured copy of both and a file backup on both machines. So if I have to re-build again, I am prepared. However there is no way to reuse the previous profile identifier as you have to sign in to the forum after accessing using SQRL. I remember earlier posts, from others, in which it was said that only Steve could correct the situation. I do not want to interrupt Steve at this time, perhaps later when SR 6.1 and 7 are out.
 

doopy

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You need to have the original ID *and* the recovery code to successfully import it into another device.

Wait... I thought you only needed one or the other, as long as you remember your identity passphrase. I exported my identity, but I don't think I can get the rescue code back again now, can I? I'm using the browser extension implementation.
 

PHolder

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I don't think I can get the rescue code back again now, can I?
If you think of hierarchy of privileges, the recovery code is more powerful than your password used to encrypt your identity. If you don't have your recovery code, you will eventually have a problem. No, I don't think there is anyway to get it back, or even change it.

You always need the identity. But it is never stored in the clear. When it is exported, it can be exported without a password, so it is encrypted with the key encoded in the recovery code. Also, certain operations can only be done with the recovery code. You can lock it (if stolen)with just the password, but to recover and unlock it, you need data that is only encrypted via the key encoded in recovery code.
 

doopy

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If you think of hierarchy of privileges, the recovery code is more powerful than your password used to encrypt your identity. If you don't have your recovery code, you will eventually have a problem. No, I don't think there is anyway to get it back, or even change it.

You always need the identity. But it is never stored in the clear. When it is exported, it can be exported without a password, so it is encrypted with the key encoded in the recovery code. Also, certain operations can only be done with the recovery code. You can lock it (if stolen)with just the password, but to recover and unlock it, you need data that is only encrypted via the key encoded in recovery code.
Oh, I see. I thought the recovery code was just there to regenerate your identity in case you forgot the password. Is there any way I could generate a new identity and associate my account with it while I still have access to my current identity?
 

PHolder

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Is there any way I could generate a new identity and associate my account with it while I still have access to my current identity?
Yes and no. That would need to be done for every site where you have used your identity. This forum is Xenforo and there is a plugin that was created for it to support SQRL. In theory you could disassociate your SQRL identity from the Xenforo account and it would fall back to a password based account. You would need to first disable the option for SQRL Only if you had enabled that. If you succeed in getting it disassociated, then you should be able to associate the new one.

I recall someone saying they were unable to succeed at doing disassociation, but you could try it, if you want a self-serviced solution. If it doesn't work, then you would need the assistance of @Steve.
 

doopy

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Yes and no. That would need to be done for every site where you have used your identity. This forum is Xenforo and there is a plugin that was created for it to support SQRL. In theory you could disassociate your SQRL identity from the Xenforo account and it would fall back to a password based account. You would need to first disable the option for SQRL Only if you had enabled that. If you succeed in getting it disassociated, then you should be able to associate the new one.

I recall someone saying they were unable to succeed at doing disassociation, but you could try it, if you want a self-serviced solution. If it doesn't work, then you would need the assistance of @Steve.
I'll give it a try and see what happens. I haven't used my SQRL identity anywhere except here and the SQRL forum. I think my SQRL forum account is associated with my account here, and not directly associated with my SQRL identity, but if I have to I'll just go through the same process for that site as well. Thanks for the info.

Edit: Turns out I actually did save the rescue code, I just forgot. Good to know, nonetheless.
 
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Steve

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I started using SQRL way back. Since then I have had two PCs which needed a rebuild from the ground up. Re-installing SQRL works fine but when it comes to the GRC Public Forums and the SQRL forum I now have 3 or four different identifiers Macnala, Macnala2, Macnala3.
I suppose Steve has the ability to merge them or regularise them, but just so I an appear as, other than, new member.
MacNala:

I see that you do, indeed, have FOUR MacNala identities here:
UserName Registration Last Activity MacNala Sep 18, 2020 Jan 4, 2021 MacNala2 Jan 17, 2021 Apr 15, 2021 Macnala3 Apr 15, 2021 << TODAY! >> MacNala4 Apr 28, 2021 May 24, 2021

If you'll let me know which identity you wish to stay with, I'll merge the others into that one. :) (And glad to help.)
 

MacNala

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Steve may thanks for taking the time out to follow up on this mess.
I seem to be using just one id now Macnala3 if you could tidy up the rest, archive or delete it does not matter to me.
Keep up the good work and hope I can help when it comes to testing SR6.1 et al.
 

Steve

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Done. Any of the content you may have created under any of the other three "MacNala's" has been merged into MacNala3.
If you would like to rename your username to "MacNala" you should be able to do that in your user profile, and all references everywhere will be changed to "MacNala." :)
 
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