Have drive that tests OK with Validrive But...

[Jan J]

I still believe it is bogus....
Reasoning... I bought 2, 4TB both have no MFG Logo on it.. Put it in External USBV3 enclosure... Validate... OK !!
then realize it had 2 different partitions.... From other threads, deleted both partitions, formatted it as NTFS.... Now only one parition... Still says 4TB
Test with validate again.... Same... OK... ??
So did speedtest Bit slow for an external USBV3, but not terrible..
Stated copying 100GB of data onto it....
In the meantime, opened up 2nd drive.(on anti static Matt/Workstation)... 2 large chips on one side, with a slightly smaller in middle of them.... no chips on other side..., and they are all scratched and painted over.... !!!!!

I would Love to reject these SSD's... but I don't seem to have a reason to do so... YET...

First one still passes Validate... ??? Put second one back together, and hoping for a suggestion as how to proceed...

Jan

 

[Jan J]

How does one post pix from Validate? It saves in RTF or TXT and site doesn't accept either? Tried converting to PDF too... ???

 

[Jan J]

Here's pix of before and after the partitions were removed and new partition formatted.... Did quick test on 2nd drive... It reports same exact, down to the serial number, as this first one did...
Suggestions?

 

[ColbyBouma]

Where did you buy the drives, and how much did they cost? I did a quick search on Amazon, and the cheapest real 4 TB SSD I see is $175.

https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-Performance-Internal-SP004TBSS3A55S25/dp/B0BVLRFFWQ

 

[Jan J]

eBay as posted before. Decent price but neither too good to be true nor full price. Price isn’t issue. Proving it is a true 4TB Drive, or a fake is the issue. At this point I’m thinking fake, but can’t prove it!
The large test copy blue screened 15 min ago. Gonna try huge file transfers again tomorrow, leaving Whats on there, there, in case that affects the copy.

I’m thinking no way 2 memory chips can equal 4TB, but that’s all that’s there, 2 large chips and one smaller, (controller?) and all info scratched and painted over on all chips. Both passes Validate as 4TB!
Now what ??
The out of box new shows 2 partitions: one obviously in Chinese,
Validate of either is identical: down to the serial number. both look and test identical.

Again,1 SSB has been partitioned cleaned & reformatted, other SSD has remained stock, other than 1 Validate test. BOTH report Fine as pix’s I posted above


So, how to prove it’s fake?
Jan

 

[ColbyBouma]

Without more information (such as a link to eBay), it's hard for us to judge what's going on. It's possible these drives are fake and doing something ValiDrive can't detect. The test you're running by copying large files to them is good. If you want a program that manages that for you, I recommend h2testw.

https://www.heise.de/download/product/h2testw-50539

 

[Jan J]

Without more information (such as a link to eBay), it's hard for us to judge what's going on. It's possible these drives are fake and doing something ValiDrive can't detect. The test you're running by copying large files to them is good. If you want a program that manages that for you, I recommend h2testw.

https://www.heise.de/download/product/h2testw-50539

It's in a language I can't read (website) I don't know what word would be language change, if there is one... ??

 

[ColbyBouma]

https://www.heise.de/download/product/h2testw-50539/download

It's in German. The direct download link has a unique ID in it, so I doubt it would work if I shared it. You want the second button on the download page.

 

[Jan J]

Thanks.. got it! Running it now whole drive R/W.
See you tomorrow!

 

[Jan J]

It does say it’s a Sage controller. That company does appear to exist. And make SSD’s. Still, only 2 memory chips?

 

[ColbyBouma]

It's possible. Apparently Micron has been making 2 TB chips since at least 2022.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/micron-takes-lead-with-232-layer-nand-up-to-2tb-per-chip-package

 

[Jan J]

The SSD under the H2test locked up about an hour into test. On reattaching to laptop, says it needs formatting to continue. Did. Don’t want to go farther on that one.

Just to be anal in my testing I pulled a Samsung SSD out of different external enclosure and put second Ebay SSD in.
Started a copy. It stopped responding 15-20 min into copy. I’ve had enough!

Informed seller (Individual, not company) & Ebay of issues. (I should have stopped when I saw both had same serial numbers) Learning experience!

end

 

[Jan J]

Seller agreed to return. I go to print out label: says "No Returns" (this was over-ruled by Ebay-On way back!)
on shipping envelope: Label to me covers previous label- to his wife.
So: It was bought elsewhere, and resold.

For kicks, last night put an existing good SSD in same enclosure that failed under Ebay SSD, and tested both with Validrive and H2testw.... That SSD passes in enclosure that failed on Ebay drive. so system and enclosure is ok, follows Ebay SSD's.. Just trying to be through...