Drive size Validrive vs spinrite

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I came across a fake SSD drive. ValiDrive showed the drive to be only a 32G vs 134G size. But when I ran a Level 2 on the drive with SpinRite 6.1 it showed a clean drive for the fake size. see pics...

Allan
 

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Level 2 only does a read, which won't catch fake drives. Does it pass a Level 5 scan?
 
Level 2 only does a read
Not quite. Level 2 does normal reads only - until a read fails. Then L2 invokes DynaStat for data recovery. L2 then attempts to write recovered data, or all zeros for unrecoverable data.

Edit:

Incorrect:
"I see L2 generating beaucoup errors when attempting to read/write nonexistent locations on a fake drive." This statement applies to normal non-fake drives, where the firmware tells the truth about what is going on in the drive.

A fake drive, with hacked firmware, would respond with "Success!" to attempts to read to or write from nonexistent locations. Since SpinRite believes what the drive tells it, SpinRite would remain blissfully unaware that a fake drive is lying to it. :(
 
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@Steve Gibson has acknowledged that Spinrite is NOT designed to
find intentionally 'fake' drives, but was designed presuming good
faith on the part of manufacturers.

So there may be fake drives that SpinRite at any Level might assess as
'all good'.

ValiDrive 1 and eventually a new ValiDrive 2 are aimed at intentionally
'faked' storage.

Remember, there are alternative tests, data-DESTRUCTIVE tests, that
just take longer, a LOT longer.
 
@Steve Gibson has acknowledged that Spinrite is NOT designed to
find intentionally 'fake' drives, but was designed presuming good
faith on the part of manufacturers.
Ah . . . Correct. My previous response was biased by my thinking about normal drives. :(

I've edited that post to correct it.