DNS over TLS inside a VPN, is this going over board?

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joet12345

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I have been playing around with this under linux and I am surprised it is working. Not sure how I got it working since I don't yet understand how Linux operating systems work nor am I a coder at all I am just a weekend computer guy. Maybe even I am just the 3rd person in the world that has played with encrypting DNS over a VPN...

Has anyone played around with this?

Not sure how I did it but I have two proxies working together at 127.0.0.1 - one is for the DoT DNS and the other is for the VPN but both are working fine hence I am encrypting the DNS inside the VPN using the local IP...I find that interesting. :unsure:
 

AlanD

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Are you sure that the DNS traffic is going over the VPN. It may be that any traffic to port 53 (DNS) is going to the DoT proxy, and any traffic for other ports, e.g. 80, 443, 119 etc, is going over the VPN. Traffic is routed by port as well as IP address.
 

joet12345

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Are you sure that the DNS traffic is going over the VPN. It may be that any traffic to port 53 (DNS) is going to the DoT proxy, and any traffic for other ports, e.g. 80, 443, 119 etc, is going over the VPN. Traffic is routed by port as well as IP address.
If I go to https://www.dnsleaktest.com/ it shows that I am using DoT DNS (dns-edge-europe-paris.cleanbrowsing.org DoT)

If I go to https://whatismyipaddress.com/ it shows I am inside the VPN

I am inside the VPN right now with DoT...
 

Lob

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Nov 7, 2020
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VPN secures your traffic to a concentrator somewhere on the Internet.
Securing DNS over this connection still protects your privacy as neither your ISP or your VPN provider has an insight into the queries. The VPN provider will still see the sites you go to (but not the exact URL) should they wish to.

If you're happy to do that, enjoy.
 

joet12345

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If you're happy to do that, enjoy.
The phone companies and ISP are gathering information from ppl and making a profit from the information they gather from everyone.

I choose to opt out of that for a matter of principal and not based on security or that I want to hide lol

In my smart phone I disabled all intrusive services too....Using ADB via my computer. This is the only way now because over the years, Android phone has disabled you from disabling them with in the settings. I already know that googla maps free app sends your GPS location constantly to some servers...then they sell that info for profit....this has been going on for years no one does anything about it...I choose to opt out. An example of how Android is intrusive, during the convid 19, some places install with out your permission or knowledge an application to track if you have been vaccinated.... this shows there is a back door for any ISP to control your phone remotely...lol

Windows 10 constantly scans your applications and phones home...browsers scan your computer running services and phones home...they are free to gather information for profit lol

So yeah I enjoy to opt out of this information gathering...:)
 
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"conspiracy delusions of the paranoid."

Talking of that, my son in law has been caught up in "The Great Reset" conspiracy. Of course, he does not see it as a conspiracy, he and his wife both firmly believe it, very scary! Has anyone else here known people who have been taken in by this?
 

bertwin

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An example of how Android is intrusive, during the convid 19, some places install with out your permission or knowledge an application to track if you have been vaccinated....
Not really: Google added an ability for covid tracking to their OS. It was discussed on SN. It is turned off by default and you need a third party app to make use of it.

You can find it under under settings->Google.