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About 6.5 years actually. From Aug/Sep 2013 until Jan 2020.
Do you recall the episode they discussed the principal of SQRL. I don't believe it was called that back then, Steve just had the idea of what would become SQRL. Obviously it was after the episode about QR codes, which I think was the year before, & where he got his 1st vision.
 

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The people stuck on UEFI will need to wait, probably 5 years for 7.0 to come out
I estimated some time ago it would take 3 years for 7.0 to be released, but no one would take by bet. So I recon we should see it by Christmas 2023.
Oh, ye doubters, you! :)

Yes, it's been a very long and seemingly unending wait. :(

Steve is apparently doing a total re-code for SpinRite 6.1. Per his comments in the development NG, this re-coding must either be done now, or later when transitioning to SR 7.0 (UEFI boot).

And, per Steve's comments, doing it now will produce a much better SR 6.1 product (for hardware it will work with), while saving beau coup time when transitioning to SR 7.0 (and beyond) after SR 6.1 is finished and released.

And so we wait . . . to see . . .

And let us not forget the unforeseen Gotchas! Steve has been encountering these during his re-coding effort, hence the now apparently total re-code scope. Expect more when we get to play with the fruits of Steve's labor!
 
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Do you recall the episode they discussed the principal of SQRL. I don't believe it was called that back then, Steve just had the idea of what would become SQRL. Obviously it was after the episode about QR codes, which I think was the year before, & where he got his 1st vision.
The specific episode? No.

I do know that Steve conceived the original SQRL concept during a morning breakfast meditation in Aug 2013 while working on the SpinRite IDE driver technology, which was finished in Sep 2013.

SQRL originally stood for: Simple QR Logon. It would become: Simple Quick Reliable Logon
 

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Do you recall the episode they discussed the principal of SQRL. I don't believe it was called that back then, Steve just had the idea of what would become SQRL. Obviously it was after the episode about QR codes, which I think was the year before, & where he got his 1st vision.
Steve mentioned his idea first in Security Now! 420 with the acronym HIPS for Hiding in Plain Sight. In Episode 424 he introduced SQRL.
 
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Steve mentioned his idea first in Security Now! 420 with the acronym HIPS for Hiding in Plain Sight. In Episode 424 he introduced SQRL.
Thanks for that Paul, I will give it a re-listen...................
Yes, you are correct. He says he had the idea 6 days previous.
 

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Yes, it has been far too long, but at least he is on it now. Like I said it was delayed 7 years by, IMHO, the wasted time on SQRL.
SQRL is worthless for the simple reason it seems no one except GRC has implemented it, and perhaps a couple of Steve's most ardent followers.

6.5 or 7 years in development... while hundreds/thousands or more of people also had useless software, Spinrite, which no longer works on the technology of most of the last decade.

I used an early version through work, don't remember the version, but I had it on 5.25" floppy. Bought my personal copy in 2006, and it did help me recover some drives, or at least the important data.

I don't care to dig back, as I'm pretty much jaded about how spinrite was pushed off any burner for a decade, but I wonder when he started talking about the need to update it. Longer than a decade ago?
 

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jaded about how spinrite was pushed off any burner for a decade
Watch your tone around these parts, partner... @Steve is not going to pay to host a space for you to slander him.

I would argue you got exactly what you paid for when you bought SpinRite. It worked at the time and no promise was made at the time that it would continue to be updated in the future... you bought it "as is". The fact that you might get a free upgrade that brings it up to current PC specs is just gravy IMHO.

I'm not saying that Steve did his business (of SpinRite) any favours by taking the time out that he did for SQRL, but it is his business to have done that to. You're not owed any effort by him, and yet he is still making efforts to do a free update.
 
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I'm not saying that Steve did his business (of SpinRite) any favours by taking the time out that he did for SQRL, but it is his business to have done that to.
I think most people agree that he should have spent time on SQRL AFTER he updated Spinrite. I know it is his business, & free to choose what he spends his time on, but that decision does not make ANY business sense. I know 6.1 will be free, but 7.0 will bring income. Ahhh, I have just got it, he did find that lost bitcoin key, and no longer needs income!
 

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Watch your tone around these parts, partner... @Steve is not going to pay to host a space for you to slander him.

I would argue you got exactly what you paid for when you bought SpinRite. It worked at the time and no promise was made at the time that it would continue to be updated in the future... you bought it "as is". The fact that you might get a free upgrade that brings it up to current PC specs is just gravy IMHO.

I'm not saying that Steve did his business (of SpinRite) any favours by taking the time out that he did for SQRL, but it is his business to have done that to. You're not owed any effort by him, and yet he is still making efforts to do a free update.
First, I don't believe that Steve is that petty.

Stating reality is slander? explain.
 

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I'm pretty much jaded about how spinrite was pushed off any burner for a decade
So are a lot of folks.

FWIW, Steve is not happy about it either.

But: What's past is past; what's done is done. Let's move on!

Steve has been working on SR 6.1, apparently doing a total re-code of SpinRite. This is delaying the release of SpinRite 6.1 but, per Steve, will save much time when moving to SR 7.0. The result should be a much better SR 6.1 product for us, and a much shorter time period between the SR 6.1 and SR 7.0 releases. Time will tell.
 

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Your use of the word worthless is what I was taking exception to. SQRL may not be your cup of tea, but it is far from worthless. Anyway... my greater point was that there is no point acting entitled... no one is entitled to SpinRite other than for the grace of @Steve's kindness to continue to work on it for free. (Much as he worked on SQRL for free.)
 
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